P.L.A.N. - A.
Me Likey Ford
Monster Truck Driver
   
Karma: +7/-4
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 645
Vehicle: 1992 Ford Explorer
P.L.A.N. - A.
|
 |
« on: January 30, 2010, 12:07:08 PM » |
|
So, I don't want to start an environmental  match with this thread at all, I am just wondering if it is actually illegal to remove your cats in Alberta? So much internet info is filled with american regulations and people just assume it applies here. I can't find anything about Cats in the Alberta Traffic Act so is there a Federal reg I don't know about? The question is then... can I legally remove my catalytic converters and replace them with pipe and a muffler? OR do I need to go invest in a replacement set-up if they are clogged. A system that replaces both the cats on my truck is around $250 USD. I can make a universal high-flow work and they are a lot cheaper. I can replace the 2 cats I have with exhaust tubing for WAY cheaper... Let me know what y'all think...
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: February 07, 2010, 08:16:26 PM by Stinky Bear »
|
Logged
|
1992 Ford Exploder XLT 5.5" Lift 35X12.50x15's 4.88's Aussie Locked
|
|
|
X-Treme
VE6OCD
2010 NA4WDA Member
Off-Road Enthusiast
  
Karma: +2/-2
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 201
Vehicle: 2006 Jeep TJ Rubicon
|
 |
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2010, 12:24:32 PM » |
|
NOT illegal. PERIOD.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
If the bank still owns it, do THEY pay to repair it if I break it? 
|
|
|
P.L.A.N. - A.
Me Likey Ford
Monster Truck Driver
   
Karma: +7/-4
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 645
Vehicle: 1992 Ford Explorer
P.L.A.N. - A.
|
 |
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2010, 12:44:47 PM » |
|
Now that's the kind of reply I was looking for! To the point...no bs... thanks man!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
1992 Ford Exploder XLT 5.5" Lift 35X12.50x15's 4.88's Aussie Locked
|
|
|
X-Treme
VE6OCD
2010 NA4WDA Member
Off-Road Enthusiast
  
Karma: +2/-2
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 201
Vehicle: 2006 Jeep TJ Rubicon
|
 |
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2010, 01:20:08 PM » |
|
lol
No prob dude.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
If the bank still owns it, do THEY pay to repair it if I break it? 
|
|
|
Off-roadMedic
2010 NA4WDA Member
Off-Road Newbie
  
Karma: +1/-0
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 46
Vehicle: 2009 Toyota Tacoma
|
 |
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2010, 04:54:33 PM » |
|
Just don't go to BC with that set up! If they inspect it, your replacing them there! Not sure why their so anal about that in BC
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
spleen
2010 NA4WDA Member
Off-Road Enthusiast
  
Karma: +3/-1
Offline
Posts: 199
|
 |
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2010, 05:13:44 PM » |
|
So are you doing straight pipes?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
X-Treme
VE6OCD
2010 NA4WDA Member
Off-Road Enthusiast
  
Karma: +2/-2
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 201
Vehicle: 2006 Jeep TJ Rubicon
|
 |
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 06:14:14 PM » |
|
Just don't go to BC with that set up! If they inspect it, your replacing them there! Not sure why their so anal about that in BC
They are anal about EVERYTHING in BC. 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
If the bank still owns it, do THEY pay to repair it if I break it? 
|
|
|
P.L.A.N. - A.
Me Likey Ford
Monster Truck Driver
   
Karma: +7/-4
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 645
Vehicle: 1992 Ford Explorer
P.L.A.N. - A.
|
 |
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 07:11:24 PM » |
|
Nope, not straight pipes...think they sound retarted. I picked up a Cherry Bomb Vortex for really cheap and figure I'll see how it sounds. My cats aren't clogged yet, but I figure they will be eventually, and if it's not illegal, I'll pull them and just run 2.5" from the y-pipe back.
Under my Ex there are 2 cats in a row, I'll probably just cut them open, empty them out, run a piece of tubing inside, then stitch them back up. With the weld facing up, you never see it from underneath. That way it'll pass a random visual inspection if I ever happen to venture into BC.
I hope the Vortex sounds ok and not stupid. I hate loud trucks... My neighbor has an early 90's cheby srtaight piped and wakes me up on the way home at 2 AM... Can't even get to Edmonton from here with him without gettting a headache from the drone in the cab on the highway. Loud exhaust just makes wheelers look bad in the public eye, don't really care but I don't want to contribute to an already large problem...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
1992 Ford Exploder XLT 5.5" Lift 35X12.50x15's 4.88's Aussie Locked
|
|
|
spleen
2010 NA4WDA Member
Off-Road Enthusiast
  
Karma: +3/-1
Offline
Posts: 199
|
 |
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2010, 07:45:04 PM » |
|
Ya Im not a huge fan of straight pipes either, was more just curious if thats the way you were going. Excessively Loud rigs on the trail are cool for about 20 min  .
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Jay K
2010 NA4WDA Member
Off-Road Enthusiast
  
Karma: +2/-1
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 158
Vehicle: 1985 Toyota XtraCab
|
 |
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2010, 07:46:48 PM » |
|
I would suggest you remove and KEEP the cats. That way, when the laws change (if you still have this rig), you can easily re-instal. These are really expensive to replace, and if yours are still OK, they are worth keeping.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Run'er till she spits out a part number!
|
|
|
P.L.A.N. - A.
Me Likey Ford
Monster Truck Driver
   
Karma: +7/-4
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 645
Vehicle: 1992 Ford Explorer
P.L.A.N. - A.
|
 |
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2010, 12:33:48 AM » |
|
Ya, I could keep them but I need the flange that matches the one at the end of the y-pipe. I guess I can head to pick a part with a sawzall and get one from another X. We'll see. I figure you've got the right idea because they'll be mandatory eventually...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
1992 Ford Exploder XLT 5.5" Lift 35X12.50x15's 4.88's Aussie Locked
|
|
|
Repete
2010 NA4WDA Member
Off-Road Amateur
  
Karma: +1/-0
Offline
Posts: 73
|
 |
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 11:21:32 PM » |
|
I'm sure glad you didn't want an environmental  match. Since that's the case I won't say anything - but I bet you know what I'm thinking : 
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: February 06, 2010, 08:10:42 AM by Stinky Bear »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
n007
2010 NA4WDA Member
Off-Road Enthusiast
  
Karma: +1/-3
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 163
the air is thin up here...
|
 |
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2010, 12:27:28 AM » |
|
I'm no environmentalist, but every time I've mentioned taking off a cat to my "non environmentalist" buddies that work on fast cars all the time... they tell me that cats prevent your engine from spewing all kinds of bad  into the air. NOx (acid rain, smog, etc) and Carbon Monoxide included. Do what ya want obviously 
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: February 06, 2010, 08:10:15 AM by Stinky Bear »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Stinky Bear
If it aint broke....tear it apart anyway!!
Moderator
Monster Truck Driver
   
Karma: +143/-6
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 1589
Vehicle: 2003 Jeep TJ Brute Rubicon
The obstacle is the path.
|
 |
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2010, 08:13:10 AM » |
|
As far as I understood it was illegal to remove any emmisions related equipment off a vehicle. I mean everyone does it but that is what I thought!! They may not inforce it too much in Alberta....just like alot of the vehicle laws......but they could if they wanted to!! Maybe someone who knows this law could shed some light on these things 
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: February 06, 2010, 08:17:04 AM by Stinky Bear »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
P.L.A.N. - A.
Me Likey Ford
Monster Truck Driver
   
Karma: +7/-4
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 645
Vehicle: 1992 Ford Explorer
P.L.A.N. - A.
|
 |
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2010, 02:22:52 PM » |
|
I have been pouring over the Alberta Traffic Act and can't find anything provincially in regards to cats being removed. I know several exhaust shops that say there are no laws concerning it. There are some laws concerning exhaust systems, most of which most people I know are breaking.
Cats prevent a lot of things but so does walking into the bush rather than driving. It's all in how much of the BS you want to believe and how much you want to care about. You can hate me for cutting my cats and spewing crap into the air (not saying you hate me...I just oversate things for effect...) and the next guy will hate you for having a big old rig in the bush and not walking, and the next guy will hate that guy for not buying organic, fair trade cotton hiking pants... you pretty much can't win, so do what is good for you and leave everyone else alone.
Anyway, I am going to start on Federal law and see if I can find anything. Anyone else with some info, post up. MAke sure you post links or at least viable quotes or info... theres to much un-supported info online as it is... No opinions please...just proof...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
1992 Ford Exploder XLT 5.5" Lift 35X12.50x15's 4.88's Aussie Locked
|
|
|
|